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RELIGION (Jiddu Krishnamurti)
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RELIGION (Jiddu Krishnamurti)
Krishnamurti: Sir, WHAT IS RELIGION?
Actually what is religion? First of all TO FIND OUT WHAT IS RELIGION WE MUST NEGATE WHAT IT IS NOT.
WHAT IT IS NOT; THAN IT IS.
It's like seeing what IS NOT LOVE. Love is NO HATE, LOVE IS NOT JEALOUSY, LOVE IS NOT AMBITION,
LOVE IS NOT VIOLENCE. When you NEGATE ALL THAT, the OTHER IS, which IS COMPASSION.
In the same way if you NEGATE WHAT IS NOT RELIGION, then YOU FIND OUT WHAT IS TRUE RELIGION; that is what IS THE TRULLY RELIGIOUS MIND.
BELIEF IS NOT RELIGION, and the AUTHORITY which the CHURCHES, the ORGANIZED RELIGION ASSUME,
IS NOT RELIGION.
In that is ALL THE SENSE OF OBEDIENCE, CONFORMITY, ACCEPTANCE,
the HIERACHICAL APPROACH OF LIFE.
The DIVISION BETWEEN the Protestant, the Catholic, the Hindu, the Moslem, THAT'S NOT RELIGION. When YOU NEGATE ALL THAT, which means YOU ARE NO LONGER Hindu, NO LONGER a Catholic, NO LONGER BELONGING TO ANY SECTARIAN OUTLOOK,
than your MIND QUESTIONS, ASKS WHAT IS TRUE RELIGION?
This is FREE FROM THEIR RITUAL, WITHOUT THEIR MASTERS, WITHOUT THEIR SAVIOUR;
ALL THAT IS NOT RELIGION.
When the MIND DISCARDS that, INTELLIGENTELY, because it has seen that IT'S NOT RELIGION, then it can ASK WHAT IS RELIGION.
RELIGION IS NOT WHAT I THINK,
but
RELIGION IS THE SENSE OF COMPREHENSION OF THE TOTALITY
OF EXISTENCE, IN WHICH THERE IS NO DIVISION BETWEEN YOU AND ME.
Then IF THERE IS that QUALITY OF GOODNESS WHICH IS VIRTUE,
REAL VIRTUE NOT THE PHONY
VIRTUE OF SOCIETY, BUT REAL VIRTUE,
then
the MIND CAN GO BEYOND AND FIND OUT, through meditation, through deep quiet silence, if there is such a thing as REALITY.
Therefore
a RELIGIOUS MIND IS A MIND THAT IS CONSTANTLY AWARE, SENSITIVE, ATTENTIVE, SO THAT IT GOES BEYOND ITSELF INTO A DIMENSION WHERE THERE
IS NO TIME AT ALL.
(Talks And Dialogues SYDNEY, Australia
A.B.C. Television Interview, 20 November, 1970)
On AUTHORITY Jiddu Krishnamurti quote:
http://dacia.forumotion.net/ezoterism-f6/authority-jiddu-krishnamurti-quote-t421.htm
Actually what is religion? First of all TO FIND OUT WHAT IS RELIGION WE MUST NEGATE WHAT IT IS NOT.
WHAT IT IS NOT; THAN IT IS.
It's like seeing what IS NOT LOVE. Love is NO HATE, LOVE IS NOT JEALOUSY, LOVE IS NOT AMBITION,
LOVE IS NOT VIOLENCE. When you NEGATE ALL THAT, the OTHER IS, which IS COMPASSION.
In the same way if you NEGATE WHAT IS NOT RELIGION, then YOU FIND OUT WHAT IS TRUE RELIGION; that is what IS THE TRULLY RELIGIOUS MIND.
BELIEF IS NOT RELIGION, and the AUTHORITY which the CHURCHES, the ORGANIZED RELIGION ASSUME,
IS NOT RELIGION.
In that is ALL THE SENSE OF OBEDIENCE, CONFORMITY, ACCEPTANCE,
the HIERACHICAL APPROACH OF LIFE.
The DIVISION BETWEEN the Protestant, the Catholic, the Hindu, the Moslem, THAT'S NOT RELIGION. When YOU NEGATE ALL THAT, which means YOU ARE NO LONGER Hindu, NO LONGER a Catholic, NO LONGER BELONGING TO ANY SECTARIAN OUTLOOK,
than your MIND QUESTIONS, ASKS WHAT IS TRUE RELIGION?
This is FREE FROM THEIR RITUAL, WITHOUT THEIR MASTERS, WITHOUT THEIR SAVIOUR;
ALL THAT IS NOT RELIGION.
When the MIND DISCARDS that, INTELLIGENTELY, because it has seen that IT'S NOT RELIGION, then it can ASK WHAT IS RELIGION.
RELIGION IS NOT WHAT I THINK,
but
RELIGION IS THE SENSE OF COMPREHENSION OF THE TOTALITY
OF EXISTENCE, IN WHICH THERE IS NO DIVISION BETWEEN YOU AND ME.
Then IF THERE IS that QUALITY OF GOODNESS WHICH IS VIRTUE,
REAL VIRTUE NOT THE PHONY
VIRTUE OF SOCIETY, BUT REAL VIRTUE,
then
the MIND CAN GO BEYOND AND FIND OUT, through meditation, through deep quiet silence, if there is such a thing as REALITY.
Therefore
a RELIGIOUS MIND IS A MIND THAT IS CONSTANTLY AWARE, SENSITIVE, ATTENTIVE, SO THAT IT GOES BEYOND ITSELF INTO A DIMENSION WHERE THERE
IS NO TIME AT ALL.
(Talks And Dialogues SYDNEY, Australia
A.B.C. Television Interview, 20 November, 1970)
On AUTHORITY Jiddu Krishnamurti quote:
http://dacia.forumotion.net/ezoterism-f6/authority-jiddu-krishnamurti-quote-t421.htm

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Re: RELIGION (Jiddu Krishnamurti)
Jiddu Krishnamurti quotes:
'A man who is not afraid is not agressive, a man who has no sense of fear of any kind is really free, a peaceful man.'
All ideologies are idiotic, whether religious or political, for it is a conceptual thinking, the conceptual word, which has so unfortunately divided man.'
'Religion is a frozen thought of a man out of which they build temples.'
'The constant assertion of belief is an indication of fear.'
'The moment you have in your heart this extraodinary thing called love and feel the depth, the delight, the ecstasy of it, you wil discover that for you the world is transformed.'
'Tradition becomes our security, and when the mind it is secure, it is in decay.'
'Your belief in God is marely an escape from your monotonous, stupid and cruel life'.
'A man who is not afraid is not agressive, a man who has no sense of fear of any kind is really free, a peaceful man.'
All ideologies are idiotic, whether religious or political, for it is a conceptual thinking, the conceptual word, which has so unfortunately divided man.'
'Religion is a frozen thought of a man out of which they build temples.'
'The constant assertion of belief is an indication of fear.'
'The moment you have in your heart this extraodinary thing called love and feel the depth, the delight, the ecstasy of it, you wil discover that for you the world is transformed.'
'Tradition becomes our security, and when the mind it is secure, it is in decay.'
'Your belief in God is marely an escape from your monotonous, stupid and cruel life'.

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Jiddu Krishnamurti on RELIGIOUS PRACTICES
Questioner: Is not the worship of God true religion?
Jiddu Krishnamurti: First of all, let us find out what is not religion. Isn't that the right approach? If we can understand what is not religion; then perhaps we shall begin to perceive something else.
Is like cleaning a dirty window --- one begin to see through it very clearly.
So let us see if we can understand and sweep out our minds that which is not religion; don't let us say, "I will think about it" and just play around with words. Perhaps you can do it, but most of the older people are already caught; they are comfortably established in that which is not religion and they do not want to be disturbed.
So, what is religion? Have you ever thought about it?...
http://krishnamurtidiscourses.blogspot.com/search/label/Jiddu%20krishnamurti%20on%20Religious%20Practices
Questioner: Is not the worship of God true religion?
Jiddu Krishnamurti: First of all, let us find out what is not religion. Isn't that the right approach? If we can understand what is not religion; then perhaps we shall begin to perceive something else.
Is like cleaning a dirty window --- one begin to see through it very clearly.
So let us see if we can understand and sweep out our minds that which is not religion; don't let us say, "I will think about it" and just play around with words. Perhaps you can do it, but most of the older people are already caught; they are comfortably established in that which is not religion and they do not want to be disturbed.
So, what is religion? Have you ever thought about it?...
http://krishnamurtidiscourses.blogspot.com/search/label/Jiddu%20krishnamurti%20on%20Religious%20Practices

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RELIGION QUOTES
RELIGION QUOTES:
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by THE RULERS AS USEFUL."
(Seneca)
"Those who say RELIGION HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH POLITICS do not know what religion is."
(Mahatma Gandi)
"God has no religion."
(Mahatma Gandi)
"When we blindely adopt A RELIGION, A POLITICAL SYSTEM, A LITERARY DOGMA, WE BECOME AUTOMATONS. We cease to grow."
(Anais Nin)
"We can live without religion and meditation, but WE CANNOT SURVIVE WITHOUT HUMAN AFFECTION."
(Dalai Lama)
"We have just enough religion to make us hate, but not enough TO MAKE US LOVE ONE ANOTHER."
(Jonathan Swift)
"Religion is TO DO RIGHT. IS TO LOVE, IS TO SERVE, IS TO THINK, IS TO BE HUMBLE."
(Ralph Waldo Emerson)
"Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it, you'd have good people doing good things and evil people doing bad things, but for good people to do bad things, it takes religion."
(Steven Weinberg)
"Doubt is part of religion. All the religion thinkers were doubters."
(Isaac Bashevis Singer)
"The church is always trying to get other people to reform, it might not be a bad idea to reform itself a little, by way of example."
(Mark Twain)
"I am against religion because it teaches us to be satisfied with not understanding the world."
(Richard Dawkins)
"All religions are founded ON THE FEAR OF THE MANY AND THE CLEVERNESS OF THE FEW."
(Stendhal)
"For seventeen hundred years the Christian sect has done nothing but harm."
(Voltaire)
"Religion consists of set of things which the avarage man thinks he believes and wishes he was certain."
(Mark Twain)
"No man ever believes that the Bible means what it says: He is always convinced that it says what he means."
(George Bernard Show)
"The tendency TO TURN HUMAN JUDGMENTS INTO DIVINE COMMANDS, MAKES RELIGION ONE OF THE MOST DANGEROUS FORCES IN THE WORLD."
(Georgia Harkness)
"Eskimo: 'If I did not know about God and sin, would I go to hell?'
Priest: 'No, not if you didn't know.'
Eskimo: 'Then why did you tell me?' "
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by THE RULERS AS USEFUL."
(Seneca)
"Those who say RELIGION HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH POLITICS do not know what religion is."
(Mahatma Gandi)
"God has no religion."
(Mahatma Gandi)
"When we blindely adopt A RELIGION, A POLITICAL SYSTEM, A LITERARY DOGMA, WE BECOME AUTOMATONS. We cease to grow."
(Anais Nin)
"We can live without religion and meditation, but WE CANNOT SURVIVE WITHOUT HUMAN AFFECTION."
(Dalai Lama)
"We have just enough religion to make us hate, but not enough TO MAKE US LOVE ONE ANOTHER."
(Jonathan Swift)
"Religion is TO DO RIGHT. IS TO LOVE, IS TO SERVE, IS TO THINK, IS TO BE HUMBLE."
(Ralph Waldo Emerson)
"Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it, you'd have good people doing good things and evil people doing bad things, but for good people to do bad things, it takes religion."
(Steven Weinberg)
"Doubt is part of religion. All the religion thinkers were doubters."
(Isaac Bashevis Singer)
"The church is always trying to get other people to reform, it might not be a bad idea to reform itself a little, by way of example."
(Mark Twain)
"I am against religion because it teaches us to be satisfied with not understanding the world."
(Richard Dawkins)
"All religions are founded ON THE FEAR OF THE MANY AND THE CLEVERNESS OF THE FEW."
(Stendhal)
"For seventeen hundred years the Christian sect has done nothing but harm."
(Voltaire)
"Religion consists of set of things which the avarage man thinks he believes and wishes he was certain."
(Mark Twain)
"No man ever believes that the Bible means what it says: He is always convinced that it says what he means."
(George Bernard Show)
"The tendency TO TURN HUMAN JUDGMENTS INTO DIVINE COMMANDS, MAKES RELIGION ONE OF THE MOST DANGEROUS FORCES IN THE WORLD."
(Georgia Harkness)
"Eskimo: 'If I did not know about God and sin, would I go to hell?'
Priest: 'No, not if you didn't know.'
Eskimo: 'Then why did you tell me?' "

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KRISHNAMURTI on RELIGION
"I maintain that TRUTH IS A PATHLESS LAND, and you cannot APPROACH IT by ANY PATH WHATSOEVER, by ANY RELIGION, by ANY SECT. That is my point of view, and I adhere to it absolutely and unconditionally.
TRUTH BEING LIMITLESS,
UNCONDITIONED, UNAPPROACHABLE BY ANY PATH WHATSOEVER, CANNOT BE ORGANIZED; nor should ANY ORGANIZATION BE FORMED TO LEAD OR TO COERCE PEOPLE ALONG ANY PARTICULAR PATH.
If you first understand that, then you will see HOW IMPOSSIBLE IT IS TO ORGANIZE A BELIEF.
A belief is purely an individual matter, and YOU CANNOT AND MUST NOT ORGANIZE IT.
If you do so, IT BECOMES DEAD, A SECT, A RELIGION, TO BE IMPOSED ON OTHERS. This is what everyone throughout the world is attempting to do."
"...this is not a magnificent deed, because I DO NOT WANT FOLLOWERS, and
I mean this. THE MOMENT YOU FOLLOW SOMEONE YOU CEASE TO FOLLOW TRUTH. I am not concerned whether you pay attention to what I say or not. I want to do a certain thing in the world and I am going to do it with unwavering concentration.
I am concerning myself with ONLY ONE ESSENTIAL THING:
*TO SET MAN FREE.*
I desire to free him from all cages, from all fears and NOT TO FOUND RELIGIONS, NEW SECTS, NOR TO ESTABLISH NEW THEORIES AND NEW PHILOSOPHIES."
---The above is taken from a speech, given in August 3, 1929, in which KRISHNAMURTI DISSOLVED THE RELIGION BUILT UP AROUND HIM,
GAVE UP ALL THE POSSESSIONS that had been showered upon him, AND RENOUNCED HIS MESSIANIC THRONE.
http://www.etresoi.ch/krishnamurti/
TRUTH BEING LIMITLESS,
UNCONDITIONED, UNAPPROACHABLE BY ANY PATH WHATSOEVER, CANNOT BE ORGANIZED; nor should ANY ORGANIZATION BE FORMED TO LEAD OR TO COERCE PEOPLE ALONG ANY PARTICULAR PATH.
If you first understand that, then you will see HOW IMPOSSIBLE IT IS TO ORGANIZE A BELIEF.
A belief is purely an individual matter, and YOU CANNOT AND MUST NOT ORGANIZE IT.
If you do so, IT BECOMES DEAD, A SECT, A RELIGION, TO BE IMPOSED ON OTHERS. This is what everyone throughout the world is attempting to do."
"...this is not a magnificent deed, because I DO NOT WANT FOLLOWERS, and
I mean this. THE MOMENT YOU FOLLOW SOMEONE YOU CEASE TO FOLLOW TRUTH. I am not concerned whether you pay attention to what I say or not. I want to do a certain thing in the world and I am going to do it with unwavering concentration.
I am concerning myself with ONLY ONE ESSENTIAL THING:
*TO SET MAN FREE.*
I desire to free him from all cages, from all fears and NOT TO FOUND RELIGIONS, NEW SECTS, NOR TO ESTABLISH NEW THEORIES AND NEW PHILOSOPHIES."
---The above is taken from a speech, given in August 3, 1929, in which KRISHNAMURTI DISSOLVED THE RELIGION BUILT UP AROUND HIM,
GAVE UP ALL THE POSSESSIONS that had been showered upon him, AND RENOUNCED HIS MESSIANIC THRONE.
http://www.etresoi.ch/krishnamurti/
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